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>> sean: is that the joe biden you've known all of these years? >> joe is pretty passionate. sometimes he can harness it in. sometimes, he can't. >> sean: that might be one thing. when paul ryan turns and said i know you're under dures but the american people would be better served if you would let them hear us. and then, the vice president continued to smirk, smile, laugh uncontrol bli. i don't know. i thought it was bizarre. what about -- i thought paul ryan at the end in his close laid out two distinct visions. that is what i take away from the debate. >> that is the point. the core issue is here do we want four more years like the last four years? or do we want to go in a different direction? we tried the government, spending borrowing taking over american health care, nationalizing student loan business. and we know that didn't work. we have four years of this european experience. it's time to go in a different direction. the choice is clear. >> sean: it's funny because paw ryan echoing comments governor romney made is that we've got 24 mill yun unand under employed amer
>> sean: is that the joe biden you've known all of these years? >> joe is pretty passionate. sometimes he can harness it in. sometimes, he can't. >> sean: that might be one thing. when paul ryan turns and said i know you're under dures but the american people would be better served if you would let them hear us. and then, the vice president continued to smirk, smile, laugh uncontrol bli. i don't know. i thought it was bizarre. what about -- i thought paul ryan at the end in...
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people say, that's joe being joe. but, you know, i couldn't help but think last night, and his questions, why did obama pick him to be his vice-president? he campaigned against him in the '08 election. joe won every debate. but he only got 1% of the vote. he's a unique personnel. viworked with him over the years. i like him. but there is no question in my mind when i look at joe biden and paul ryan on the stage there last night, i think paul ryan's got what it takes to take over as president. i don't think joe biden does. >> sean: you know, there are certain things he said that were factually inaccurate, one was the issue of benghazi. there was a request. we did know they asked for security. we did know it was a terror attack within 24 hours. we had testimony this week from state department officials and others, very clear on what had happened here. he seemed to throw the state department and our intelligence services down the stairs at the same time and not tell the american people the truth. that's pretty disturbing
people say, that's joe being joe. but, you know, i couldn't help but think last night, and his questions, why did obama pick him to be his vice-president? he campaigned against him in the '08 election. joe won every debate. but he only got 1% of the vote. he's a unique personnel. viworked with him over the years. i like him. but there is no question in my mind when i look at joe biden and paul ryan on the stage there last night, i think paul ryan's got what it takes to take over as president. i...
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i would agree with tamron of course joe has to be joe. i would quibble with the extent he's had these blunders. some of these things i wouldn't count as the same kind of gaffes or blunders as we've seen from political candidates. his one blunter of being sometimes a little too enfouss a tick will play well because the stage has been set here for this campaign to make a really, you know, sort of powerful haymaker. so biden is the best person to be at-bat right now. >> tamron, i want to show you some images of paul ryan. i hope you will be able to see these. these are from a "time" magazine photo shoot in december of last year that were just published today and they have taken on a life of their own. this photo started floating around facebook and twitter after people commented how the photos made him look like a cast member of the 1990s show "saved by the bell" and our own team drew the line between ryan and the character goober from "the andy griffith show." i guess image management will be paramount for paul ryan because he's not as well
i would agree with tamron of course joe has to be joe. i would quibble with the extent he's had these blunders. some of these things i wouldn't count as the same kind of gaffes or blunders as we've seen from political candidates. his one blunter of being sometimes a little too enfouss a tick will play well because the stage has been set here for this campaign to make a really, you know, sort of powerful haymaker. so biden is the best person to be at-bat right now. >> tamron, i want to...
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there's a classic joe being joe. and if you didn't like him and joe shtick wears on you, then you hated some of the moments that he had last night. but what are we talking about? this was joe biden's debate. paul ryan was at it, but this was biden's debate. he sort of controlled the debate for better or for worse at times for him. that was important. and joe, i'm with you on this. that's a big deal to the obama campaign. they couldn't go down 0-2, to be cliche about this in baseball, they couldn't afford to lose game two of this four-game series of debates. and they didn't lose game two. we can argue, was it a full win for biden? did he give away some points in this because of style because he was a little too amped up on red bull for the first 45 minutes of this thing? maybe. but they certainly -- you can't say he lost the debate. it's all about next tuesday anyway. and biden's job was to make sure he didn't -- i mean, put it this way. had ryan clobbered biden a la what romney did to obama, boy, it would be -- imagi
there's a classic joe being joe. and if you didn't like him and joe shtick wears on you, then you hated some of the moments that he had last night. but what are we talking about? this was joe biden's debate. paul ryan was at it, but this was biden's debate. he sort of controlled the debate for better or for worse at times for him. that was important. and joe, i'm with you on this. that's a big deal to the obama campaign. they couldn't go down 0-2, to be cliche about this in baseball, they...
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i think joe biden did. but ryan did have that one good line on taxes, raising fear about increases in middle class taxes. >> there are a couple of shots taken, like you bring in a foreign object to a wrestling match. one was you're under duress. also the one comparing joe biden's gaps, which are usually harmless, with what the president was heard saying in terms of the 47-minute expose. to compare those two seems ludicrous. >> well, it seems ludicrous, chris, but i think it was effective to the extent that it's an irresistible sound bite. it's an irresistible exchange. but joe biden got the last word there, sort of. he said, well, when i speak, i'm telling the truth. you know, when i misspeak, i'm saying what i really believe. what he needed to say further was that's what mitt romney really believes. >> he did. he did say that. >> yeah, he did say it. >> when i say it, i mean it, and this guy does too. that's the dangerous stuff. anyway, thank you, howard. we'll see you later tonight. >> play the whole soun
i think joe biden did. but ryan did have that one good line on taxes, raising fear about increases in middle class taxes. >> there are a couple of shots taken, like you bring in a foreign object to a wrestling match. one was you're under duress. also the one comparing joe biden's gaps, which are usually harmless, with what the president was heard saying in terms of the 47-minute expose. to compare those two seems ludicrous. >> well, it seems ludicrous, chris, but i think it was...
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joe biden versus joe biden. ryan barely showed up. he passed the threshold and did fine but if you like sneering attacks from this kind of senator, you're going to love it. >> wow. >> sneering attacks from this pompous old senator. >> but if -- >> not a joe biden fan. >> i am a joe biden fan. if you think joe biden is over the top you're going to not like it. you saw the reactions kind of split down the middle. >> if you think -- every seniority yen human being thinks joe biden is over the top. >> joe biden -- >> hold on. >> he came in with this cultural expectation, courtesy of the onion he was going to take his shirt off and rather up the podium. like he has a lot of room to run. >> i don't think statesman is a word you particularly associate with vice president biden. he was not statesman-like yesterday. he wasn't supposed to be. it's not the training that he got to go out there. he was going to go out there and beat up romney and he did that. >> by the way, the fact that the republicans are making a big deal about whether he was s
joe biden versus joe biden. ryan barely showed up. he passed the threshold and did fine but if you like sneering attacks from this kind of senator, you're going to love it. >> wow. >> sneering attacks from this pompous old senator. >> but if -- >> not a joe biden fan. >> i am a joe biden fan. if you think joe biden is over the top you're going to not like it. you saw the reactions kind of split down the middle. >> if you think -- every seniority yen human...
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i say it's just joe being joe. ryan took it in stride and tried to hold his own. look at all that water the congressman was drinking. does he have a strenuous p90x workout before the debate? you had a different experience than the viewers because optics and body language are crucial in debates. some say that is the whole ball game. in the guest spot we have bill mcgowan, one of the top media trainers in the country, ceo of the clarity media group. good to see you sitting up straight. >> lead by example. >> you better be perfect. >> i better be. the pressure's on. >> one of the things that jumped out at me was the moments where joe biden stared directly into the camera and it seemed very intense, very serious and at least one of moments, a couple of the moments he was talking directly to seniors which, of course, he is one. it was very much like this is serious, this is real, i'm leveling with you, i'm one of you, listen to me. what did you think about that? >> i think it was effective, i thought it represented some of his better moments. interestingly ryan did not
i say it's just joe being joe. ryan took it in stride and tried to hold his own. look at all that water the congressman was drinking. does he have a strenuous p90x workout before the debate? you had a different experience than the viewers because optics and body language are crucial in debates. some say that is the whole ball game. in the guest spot we have bill mcgowan, one of the top media trainers in the country, ceo of the clarity media group. good to see you sitting up straight. >>...
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joe biden proved that last night. and as winston churchill once said, i like a man who grins when he fights. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> these are the folks who talk about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take responsibility. it's about time governor romney takes some responsibility. >> the vice president keeps the hits coming after his knockout debate with paul ryan. >> stop talking about how you care about people. show me something. >> richard wolffe on the education of congressman paul ryan. >> ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan -- >> "now's" terri o'neal on the romney ticket's disaster for women. >> if the romney/ryan ticket is elected, should those who believe abortion should remain legal be worried? >> david cay johnston on ryan's sixth study lie. >> can you guarantee this math will add up? >> absolutely. six studies have guaranteed. >> and what's more disrespectful? lying to america or interrupting a guy who's lying to america? >> it was openly contemptu
joe biden proved that last night. and as winston churchill once said, i like a man who grins when he fights. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> these are the folks who talk about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take responsibility. it's about time governor romney takes some responsibility. >> the vice president keeps the hits coming after his knockout debate with paul ryan. >> stop talking about how you care about people. show me...
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just needs to be joe. congressman ryan is a smart and effective speaker. but his ideas are the wrong ones. and joe understands that. >> the president also downplaying his own weak showing at the first presidential debate. even though the republicans are now riding a surge of new momentum, he says that one debate is not a game changer. >> well, governor romney had a good night. i had a bad night. >> how bad? >> it's not the first time i've had a bad night but i think what's important is the fundame fundamentals of what this race is about haven't changed. >> not so fast, says the romney camp. they say after last week's presidential debate had such a big impact on the race, don't dismiss tonight's face-off. >> these things matter. americans are really tuned into this, especially after last week's debate where the president did a belly flop. people will be tuning in tonight more so than they ever have before. i've known paul for a long, long time. he has always hit the ball out of the park. this is his first t
just needs to be joe. congressman ryan is a smart and effective speaker. but his ideas are the wrong ones. and joe understands that. >> the president also downplaying his own weak showing at the first presidential debate. even though the republicans are now riding a surge of new momentum, he says that one debate is not a game changer. >> well, governor romney had a good night. i had a bad night. >> how bad? >> it's not the first time i've had a bad night but i think...
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be joe. congressman ryan is a smart and effective speaker. but his ideas are the wrong ones. and joe understands that. >> meanwhile, president obama is critiquing his own debate performance, at length, for the first time. here he is with tom joyner. >> i mean, you know, the debate, i think, it's fair to say, i was just too plait. because, you know, it's hard to sometimes just keep on saying what you're saying isn't true. it gets repetitive. but, you know, the good news is, is that's just the first one. >> the president reiterated that message with diane sawyer. >> governor romney had a good night, i had a bad night. >> how bad? >> well, it's not the first time i've had a bad night, but i think what's important is that the fundamentals of what this race is about haven't changed. you know, governor romney went to a lot of trouble to try to hide what his positions are, because he knows that those ideas have been rejected. >> is it possible you handed him the election that night? >> no. >> you're
be joe. congressman ryan is a smart and effective speaker. but his ideas are the wrong ones. and joe understands that. >> meanwhile, president obama is critiquing his own debate performance, at length, for the first time. here he is with tom joyner. >> i mean, you know, the debate, i think, it's fair to say, i was just too plait. because, you know, it's hard to sometimes just keep on saying what you're saying isn't true. it gets repetitive. but, you know, the good news is, is that's...
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hey, can i call you joe? >> you can call me joe. >> thank you. thank you, gwen. thank you. thank you, thank you. >> say it ain't so, joe. there you go again pointing backwards again. you plefrsed your whole comment with the bush administration. >> say it ain't so, joe. i love that. as mentioned, 70 million people watched that debate. that's 10 million more than last week's debate between the presidential candidates. one woman who know as thing or two about prepping such, for such a night is jennifer granholm. the one who stood in for palin in helping joe biden prep four years ago. today the current host of the "war room with jennifer granholm" kind enough to join us from new york. hello, governor. nice to see you. >> ashleigh, nice to see you, too. thanks. >> the question, prepping joe biden then versus what he must be prepping for now has to be entirely different. i dare say apples and oranges? >> totally different. you have put your finger right on it. i mean, four years ago, he was a presidential candidate. remember? and barack obama invited him to be on the ticket. they
hey, can i call you joe? >> you can call me joe. >> thank you. thank you, gwen. thank you. thank you, thank you. >> say it ain't so, joe. there you go again pointing backwards again. you plefrsed your whole comment with the bush administration. >> say it ain't so, joe. i love that. as mentioned, 70 million people watched that debate. that's 10 million more than last week's debate between the presidential candidates. one woman who know as thing or two about prepping such,...
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is whether you like joe biden or didn't like joe biden or whether paul ryan seemed like he was up to the job of being president? >> well, charlie let's talk about style and substance. the style points, you know, i moderated two of these debates, these vice presidential debates, one in which they are standing at separate podiums and one in which they were seated in that circular table like martha raddatz did tonight and i thought she did a great job. >> rose: i did too. >> one way they react when sitting across the table that's when he asked about the 47 percent and paul ryan obviously planned response was well sometimes things come out the wrong way you know that joe and biden was able to say yeah but i mean it when i say i it and that brought him back around to the question of passion that mark was talking about, but on the substance part of this, let's talk about the loose end that were left on the table, what happened, their disagreements or at least unresolved differences on iran and actually what action it is united states should take and on afghanistan and whether or not -- i c
is whether you like joe biden or didn't like joe biden or whether paul ryan seemed like he was up to the job of being president? >> well, charlie let's talk about style and substance. the style points, you know, i moderated two of these debates, these vice presidential debates, one in which they are standing at separate podiums and one in which they were seated in that circular table like martha raddatz did tonight and i thought she did a great job. >> rose: i did too. >> one...
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joe be joe, everything's going to be just fine. and i think the fact that they're sitting down is good. i've seen biden in person many times on the stump standing up. he gets a little carried away. sitting down tonight might be to his advantage. >> the thing i keep thinking about is what is going through paul ryan's head? when you think about it as a politician or public figure, who your peer group is you're trying to impress, paul ryan, right wing think tanks, conservative movement, ideological elements. is he going to go up on the stage tonight and renounce it all? that is the strategic chose made by the romney campaign. you're going to go up there and everything you've done since the first day you were a junior staffer on the hill to now, we want you to throw it out the window and do it in front of everyone. is he going to take his life's work and rip it up on national television? >> are they going to hold ryan to what he has done in politics? this is going to be such a good night. all right. as everyone concedes that president
joe be joe, everything's going to be just fine. and i think the fact that they're sitting down is good. i've seen biden in person many times on the stump standing up. he gets a little carried away. sitting down tonight might be to his advantage. >> the thing i keep thinking about is what is going through paul ryan's head? when you think about it as a politician or public figure, who your peer group is you're trying to impress, paul ryan, right wing think tanks, conservative movement,...
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you know, barack obama was asked what should joe biden do, he said, well, joe just needs to be joe. well, joe was definitely joe. >> that's what his son said on the show last night. >> he did what barack obama said he should do. i think that broadly you're exactly right, chris, which is the democratic base wanted this. they like that joe biden. they don't care that, oh, well, he was disparaging. they don't care about any of that stuff related to paul ryan. they like the laughing and smiling. the republican base doesn't like joe biden going in. they're not going to like joe biden going out. it doesn't change the race in any way, shape, or form. i don't want to sound too cynical, my guess is most people who remain undecided at this point probably were watching some combination of orioles/yankees, nfl, something else. >> we'll see. here is what john dickerson wrote today about the vice president performance. biden was defending the middle class while ryan was defending romney. biden's greatest asset was his, though he might have been over the top. . it was possible for a viewer to conc
you know, barack obama was asked what should joe biden do, he said, well, joe just needs to be joe. well, joe was definitely joe. >> that's what his son said on the show last night. >> he did what barack obama said he should do. i think that broadly you're exactly right, chris, which is the democratic base wanted this. they like that joe biden. they don't care that, oh, well, he was disparaging. they don't care about any of that stuff related to paul ryan. they like the laughing and...
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joe walsh joins me now. welcome. >> nice to be here. >> is there anybody out there other than you, i've spent more time listening to in my car? and i have concluded no. you are my go-to car music man. >> thank you. >> how does that make you feel? >> thank you. makes me feel really good. really good. driving music. >> it is classic driving music. that song, "one day at a time" i read the lyrics and the sleeve notes here. very interesting. it's basically your story, isn't it? you were this huge, huge rock star, one of the biggest bands in the world, living life truly to all excesses known to rock stars. >> yep. >> and then 18 years ago, you walked away. you said i'm done. i'm done with that. and life ever since i guess for you has been one step at a time, one day at a time. >> one day at a time, yeah. you just can't decide to get sober and wake up the next day and be cured. i had to learn to do everything that everything that i always did drunk sober. one thing at a time. like playing in front of people was te
joe walsh joins me now. welcome. >> nice to be here. >> is there anybody out there other than you, i've spent more time listening to in my car? and i have concluded no. you are my go-to car music man. >> thank you. >> how does that make you feel? >> thank you. makes me feel really good. really good. driving music. >> it is classic driving music. that song, "one day at a time" i read the lyrics and the sleeve notes here. very interesting. it's...
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first to you, michael, you know joe biden really well. what is the challenge here for joe biden? we know that sometimes when he gets wound up on the stump he goes off message. but as maggie was saying earlier, in debates he's been really focused. is that the joe biden you expect to show up tonight? >> i do. i expect joe biden to show up tonight to try to prevent congressman ryan from wiley mischaracter iing the record the obama/biden record over last four years and try to hold congressman wryan to specifics. congressman ryan will have to reconcile his own budget plan and the rapidly evolving romney/ryan budget and tax plan. a lot of open questions there. i expect vice president biden's going to come out ready to hold his feet to the fire on specifics. and congressman ryan has other challenges, you know? he's not well-known on the national stage, so this will be a new introduction for him. and he has to pass the commander in chief threshold so there will be foreign policy questions tonight. he'll have to hold his own there. he also has to energize conservatives but also appeal to
first to you, michael, you know joe biden really well. what is the challenge here for joe biden? we know that sometimes when he gets wound up on the stump he goes off message. but as maggie was saying earlier, in debates he's been really focused. is that the joe biden you expect to show up tonight? >> i do. i expect joe biden to show up tonight to try to prevent congressman ryan from wiley mischaracter iing the record the obama/biden record over last four years and try to hold congressman...
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i'm like joe in that respect. what you just heard was the biggest line of bull we heard from the republicans behind me. >> you obviously never worked on the hill, my friend. >> i worked on the hill for five years. >> a good elected official knows what their staff is up to. somebody who wants to be vice president of the united states, if his best explanation is, i guess my staff did it or better yet if he said, we always try to get money for our state except when i go out and argue against the money for my state. he was caught. he was speaking for the entire republican party at that moment. because these are guys in the republican party who want what they want from the government and then they tell you the government's evil when it comes to everybody else. >> listen -- >> that's why. let me finish. that's why romney and ryan support preserving tax cuts for all the capital gains and carried interest. everything else, my friend, your mortgage interest tax deduction and everything else is on table. >> okay. if that wa
i'm like joe in that respect. what you just heard was the biggest line of bull we heard from the republicans behind me. >> you obviously never worked on the hill, my friend. >> i worked on the hill for five years. >> a good elected official knows what their staff is up to. somebody who wants to be vice president of the united states, if his best explanation is, i guess my staff did it or better yet if he said, we always try to get money for our state except when i go out and...
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and joe's here. >> i'm here. we have some new polls out. >> yes, we do. >> a big movement, and the polls, let's talk first about what i think is going to be one of the great, great series that we've had in a while. and that's the red sox and the orioles -- i mean the yankees and the orioles. oh, wait, i'm sorry. the red sox right now. >> are you trying to alienate everybody? >> so we've got two big yankee fans here. but the yankees and the orioles. you've got, you know, you've got the empire, the great team, plus -- against the upstarts. this one's going to go a while. >> can't go more than five games. >> well, that's a while. if you're a yankees fan. i get nothing from richard haass, so willie. richard, you suck. >> no. >> willie, i'm excited about this stuff. >> go to the ichiro play. >> this is just a great david versus goliath contest. >> i'd say this is a yankee fan, it's hard not to love the orioles and their story. what they've done this year. these are usually the kinds of teams that go away after the all
and joe's here. >> i'm here. we have some new polls out. >> yes, we do. >> a big movement, and the polls, let's talk first about what i think is going to be one of the great, great series that we've had in a while. and that's the red sox and the orioles -- i mean the yankees and the orioles. oh, wait, i'm sorry. the red sox right now. >> are you trying to alienate everybody? >> so we've got two big yankee fans here. but the yankees and the orioles. you've got, you...
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paul ryan a b and joe biden a b-. here is the wisdom. democrats say joe biden was strong, he was the adult on stage. he stopped the bleeding, such that it was from last week's debate. for republicans paul ryan passed the can he be president threshold and joe biden was rude and arrogant. what say you? >> it's certainly the case. there were some democrats who conceded the point. that's why i gave the vice president a lower grade. the smiles, laughs, smirks. i don't think it changed anything about the race. i think that they both laid down the markers and, again, for their own parties, mostly. the vice president energizing democrats and for paul ryan showing people he was on that stage and not overrun. the vice president clearly dominated the proceedings. >> we have seen paul ryan a lot for those of us who cover politics. we have seen him on press conferences and capitol hill, never in the big lights. how did he do from start to finish? >> you know, again, we were reading the leaves a little bit. i thought he started out nervous. he reacted
paul ryan a b and joe biden a b-. here is the wisdom. democrats say joe biden was strong, he was the adult on stage. he stopped the bleeding, such that it was from last week's debate. for republicans paul ryan passed the can he be president threshold and joe biden was rude and arrogant. what say you? >> it's certainly the case. there were some democrats who conceded the point. that's why i gave the vice president a lower grade. the smiles, laughs, smirks. i don't think it changed anything...
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. >> greta: last week, big bird, this week, laughing joe. twitter on fire with joe biden's smirks, sneers and cackle. the twitter handle at laughing joe biden had more than 7,000 followers take a look at the highlights from the biden-ryan faceoff. >> we will find and bring to justice the men who did this. >> it took the president two weeks to acknowledge this was a terrorist attack. he went to the un and in his speech he said six times, talk about the you tube video. look. if we're hit by terrorists we're going to call it for what it s a terrorist attack. >> we weren't told they wanted more security there. we did not know. >> there were requests for extra security. those requests were not honored. >> they're pushing continuation of tax cuts giving an additional $500 billion in tax cuts to 120,000 families. and they're holding hostage a middle class tax cut because they say we won't pass and won't continue the middle class tax cut unless you give the tax cut to the super wealthy. it's time they take responsibility. >> do you know what the une
. >> greta: last week, big bird, this week, laughing joe. twitter on fire with joe biden's smirks, sneers and cackle. the twitter handle at laughing joe biden had more than 7,000 followers take a look at the highlights from the biden-ryan faceoff. >> we will find and bring to justice the men who did this. >> it took the president two weeks to acknowledge this was a terrorist attack. he went to the un and in his speech he said six times, talk about the you tube video. look. if...
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take a listen. >> can i call you joe? >>> you can call me joe. >> can i call you joe? well, i'm going to talk with a guy i call john harwood who says for better or worse vp debates can leave that lasting tingle or taste in our mouths. next what the candidates need to do to make sure their memorable moment is a good one. plus, former ohio governor ted strickland will join me live in kentucky. first, there's a lot going on today and here are a few things we thought you should know. mayor cory booker admits to being a bit frustrated when watching the presidential debates. he said when romney talked about needing to hire a new accountant he wanted to scream out, quote, obama say, keep your accountant. they're allowing you to pay only 13% in taxes. the president needs to, quote, throw more punches when he faces mitt romney tuesday. congressman paul ryan shows off his guns, if you want to call them that? new issue of "time" magazine on stands this friday. you see there, the congressman in a foot tow shoot with his workout routine. ryan is a big fan of p 90 x workouts and he
take a listen. >> can i call you joe? >>> you can call me joe. >> can i call you joe? well, i'm going to talk with a guy i call john harwood who says for better or worse vp debates can leave that lasting tingle or taste in our mouths. next what the candidates need to do to make sure their memorable moment is a good one. plus, former ohio governor ted strickland will join me live in kentucky. first, there's a lot going on today and here are a few things we thought you should...
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if you were predisposed to like democrats you loved what joe biden did. i loved what joe bide deny. if you are a republic, you loved what ryan did. that's the tway goes. if ryan would have acted up and been more in your face it, probably wouldn't have gone well for him simply because he has got the age factor. look, is he very young-looking. is he very young, in fact. so, he has to act a little bit more reserve. he has to stay within himself or he would come across very poorly. i think joe did what the democratic party needed him to do. there has been a lot of hand ringing among the party. whoa is me since the last performance. joe biden come out there and took it to the republicans last night the way republicans wanted it so see. >> laura: i'm trying to watch as it someone who is not a conservative commentator and trying to put myself in the position of those families out there that are struggling and i bet a lot of them watch some of the debate but maybe tuned it out after a while. because i think they see a washington that is more focused on getting incumbents reelected than it i
if you were predisposed to like democrats you loved what joe biden did. i loved what joe bide deny. if you are a republic, you loved what ryan did. that's the tway goes. if ryan would have acted up and been more in your face it, probably wouldn't have gone well for him simply because he has got the age factor. look, is he very young-looking. is he very young, in fact. so, he has to act a little bit more reserve. he has to stay within himself or he would come across very poorly. i think joe did...
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joe biden said he is excited. he sat down with other own dana bash to talk about his prep for the debate, and dana asked about biden's last debate opponent. >> the only other person to debate joe biden in a vice president debate is sarah palin. have you called her for advice? >> i have her. i only pet meth her once, and that was about two years ago. >> would you? >> sure, sure. >> can i call you joe? >> she famously or maybe infamously said that she wanted to call him joe because she kept calling him joe o'biden in debate prep. >> he knows me as paul, and i know him as swroe. i don't know. i haven't given much thought to that, to be honest with you. probably not unless he wants to make a case of it, but we know each other. actually we've gotten along quite well over the years. i like joe personally quite a bit. i just disagree with his policies. >> all right. dana is in danville, and, you know, we've all been trying not to say o'biden because it gets kind of cooky sometimes when you're mixing up all of the names h
joe biden said he is excited. he sat down with other own dana bash to talk about his prep for the debate, and dana asked about biden's last debate opponent. >> the only other person to debate joe biden in a vice president debate is sarah palin. have you called her for advice? >> i have her. i only pet meth her once, and that was about two years ago. >> would you? >> sure, sure. >> can i call you joe? >> she famously or maybe infamously said that she wanted to...
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>> first of all, joe is joe. i think he was in complete command, overwhelming in terms of experience. yes, he smiled a little more often and that's what happens when you really believe that it's noncompetitive and it shouldn't happen. and paul ryan put in a better performance than most people, including me ever, ever expected. >> do you think biden went too far though? >> no, of course not. i think after anyone analyzes this, and i'm concerned about the public's wanting to know what the facts are. facts have anything to do with it, biden was completely in charge of it because paul ryan has been running away from this budget, the republican party has, romney has, and he really believes in what he is saying is the only thing he's done in congress. he truly believes in the numbers and cannot get his own party to explain how is this thing going to balance out? joe made it abundantly clear, if you're going to cut taxes and raise money to do it, what are you cutting? he didn't do that. on the question of vouchers in te
>> first of all, joe is joe. i think he was in complete command, overwhelming in terms of experience. yes, he smiled a little more often and that's what happens when you really believe that it's noncompetitive and it shouldn't happen. and paul ryan put in a better performance than most people, including me ever, ever expected. >> do you think biden went too far though? >> no, of course not. i think after anyone analyzes this, and i'm concerned about the public's wanting to...
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joe biden was on his game. he's trending on twitter in a good way, in a bad way, he clearly was in command of the stage last night. >> both of them performed well. paul ryan was much more confident and assured than he was in his speech, acceptance speech in august. i think he handled himself very well. i think biden delivered more of what his side needed. look at the polling. cnn poll had ryan winning, cbs poll had biden winning. biden was effective when he got back to framing this as a choice of who is on your side. ryan, in the answer on libya was effective when he could get back to whether the past four years justify another four years. those are each strong arguments for those remaining undecided voters, which is why i think the debate, above all, shows we may be headed for the third photo finish presidential election out of the last four. >> jessica, if you listen to the reaction, it appears from joe biden's performance, i think people are saying, you know, joe biden, after that phone call with president o
joe biden was on his game. he's trending on twitter in a good way, in a bad way, he clearly was in command of the stage last night. >> both of them performed well. paul ryan was much more confident and assured than he was in his speech, acceptance speech in august. i think he handled himself very well. i think biden delivered more of what his side needed. look at the polling. cnn poll had ryan winning, cbs poll had biden winning. biden was effective when he got back to framing this as a...
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>> look, joe biden is going to be joe biden. that would have been true whether he was doing this after a different debate last week or not. you know joe biden and the american people have gotten to know him. he's a fighter for the middle class. he feels it in his gut and even more importantly, the policies that he and the president stand for are ones that will help the middle class, which is in stark contrast to the romney/ryan plan. so, i think the nation is in for a really good discussion tonight. >> i think you're very right. a very serious, strong discussion. you know paul ryan now probably better than anyone you studied and studied him getting ready for these debate preparations. where do you believe the wisconsin congressman is most vulnerable? >> well, paul ryan is very quick on his feet. we've debated his budget many times in the house. but i think he's most vulnerable when it comes to translating his budget into the impact that it has on real people. when you actually begin to crunch the numbers and do the math, you fin
>> look, joe biden is going to be joe biden. that would have been true whether he was doing this after a different debate last week or not. you know joe biden and the american people have gotten to know him. he's a fighter for the middle class. he feels it in his gut and even more importantly, the policies that he and the president stand for are ones that will help the middle class, which is in stark contrast to the romney/ryan plan. so, i think the nation is in for a really good...
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i would have said, who is the real joe biden? and how -- abortion, that's a way bigger issue for the theology of catholicism. not fort church, but for the theology. abortion is really a big issue. gay marriage, jesus never talked about it. birth control, obviously they didn't have it back then. they're important issues, but not at the level of abortion. then you're getting into the fabric of the theology. >> i think what this does, this is obviously a conservative group that's putting out this ad, but what this does is it begs then for attack ads about romney being a mormon. >> they haven't really thus far. >> bill: he's consistent with his mormon theology. wait a minute. she's raising an issue. how do you attack romney who is a consistent mormon is this he does what they say. biden is not. >> it raises questions. just wait and see. >> bill: i'm telling you, i don't see any relevance there. they're going to go back to the 17th century on it? >> but what they've got it do is now they realize that the catholic vote is so important.
i would have said, who is the real joe biden? and how -- abortion, that's a way bigger issue for the theology of catholicism. not fort church, but for the theology. abortion is really a big issue. gay marriage, jesus never talked about it. birth control, obviously they didn't have it back then. they're important issues, but not at the level of abortion. then you're getting into the fabric of the theology. >> i think what this does, this is obviously a conservative group that's putting out...
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joe biden has done a lot of debates. by my count, 749. no, closer to 23, but he did 14 in the last year, in 2008 alone. >> yes. >> on the other hand, he's also been vice president for the last four years. i think everyone knows that vice president's don't really get pressed a lot in those four years, you know, when something goes wrong. when something goes wrong, give me the vice president i have some serious questions for him. so i'm wondering if you think the four years of not really having to answer too many tough questions makes him a little rusty despite his years of debate experience? >> well, it made the president rusty. i think it could do the same to joe biden. although he has been working very hard. at the convention he had put in 60 hours of debate prep. what he's been paid for for the last four years comes down to this moment tonight. biden, his mind is not an orderly one all the time, shall we say, but he's -- but he'll be tough. he's going to be defending an entire tradition and history of the democratic party because really
joe biden has done a lot of debates. by my count, 749. no, closer to 23, but he did 14 in the last year, in 2008 alone. >> yes. >> on the other hand, he's also been vice president for the last four years. i think everyone knows that vice president's don't really get pressed a lot in those four years, you know, when something goes wrong. when something goes wrong, give me the vice president i have some serious questions for him. so i'm wondering if you think the four years of not...
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joe for better and worse being joe. >> our adversaries are much more willing tomorrow bra embrace us >> with all due respect, that is malarkey. >> under a romney administer, we will have credibility under this issue. >> vice president biden. >> that's incredible. >> thank goodness we have these sanctions in place. >> oh, god. >> over 100 can criminal investigations have been launched. >> go ahead. >> martha, look -- >> and at one point the vice president seemed to even hold himself back from actually cursing. >> this is a bunch of stuff. >> what does that mean, a bunch of stuff? >> it means it's simply inaccurate. >> it's irish. >> irish call it malarkey. >> ryan, of course, largely avoided taking the bait. he did push back at biden a few times including this little zinger. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress but i think people would be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> the democratic base needed a shot in the arm and biden gave it to them, deploying several attacks that romney failed to use in just one minute of the debate. one minute.
joe for better and worse being joe. >> our adversaries are much more willing tomorrow bra embrace us >> with all due respect, that is malarkey. >> under a romney administer, we will have credibility under this issue. >> vice president biden. >> that's incredible. >> thank goodness we have these sanctions in place. >> oh, god. >> over 100 can criminal investigations have been launched. >> go ahead. >> martha, look -- >> and at one...
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the president is not joe biden. you know, he's not going to be that demonstrative but certainly we can expect him to be more aggressive. he leaves tomorrow morning for another debate camp, training camp, if you will, three days in another swing state. he's not going to be far away, in williamsburg, virginia, and he'll go directly from there to the debate next tuesday night. what white house officials will only say about how any adjustments that the president is making last night on the plane, a senior official telling reporters governor romney is trying to hide a variety of his positions and we're going to make sure the american people understand what he would actually do if he's president, martin. >> good luck with that. nbc's mike viqueira. thank you, as always. stay with us. the week's "top lines" are coming up. go! here it comes! right in the numbers. boom! get it! spin! oh nice hands! thank you, as always. my favor! oh! [ male announcer ] share what you love, with who you love. kellogg's frosted flakes. they're
the president is not joe biden. you know, he's not going to be that demonstrative but certainly we can expect him to be more aggressive. he leaves tomorrow morning for another debate camp, training camp, if you will, three days in another swing state. he's not going to be far away, in williamsburg, virginia, and he'll go directly from there to the debate next tuesday night. what white house officials will only say about how any adjustments that the president is making last night on the plane, a...